I am with you, except for the last bit. Someone from Afghanistan becoming American. That doesn't mesh with being a heritage American. Unless I have misunderstood it sounds like civic nationalism, which is a nonstarter in my view. Weak beer compared to actual heritage.
As an aside, it is always interesting to ask outsiders what an American is. If you ask Arabs and Chinese they'll pick someone like John Wayne. Always white, or mostly white at least.
I don't disagree with you. I can't claim to be 100% certain, nor would I pretend that my position is where everyone else needs to move to. But there is some nebulous gray area of Land, Ancestry, and Will. If you roll back the clock 100 years (actually more lol, 90s kid mindset) then being a German migrant to the US and put you far outside the scope of Heritage American. But when you look around today, it would be a pretty tall order to try and explain why the descendants of ethnic English and Irish can make that claim but not Germans.
Though my own personal tastes run contrary to this position, I nonetheless assert that almost anyone can turn their descendants into Amerikaners, or at least give them a fighting chance to do so, so long as they abandon what they left behind and fully take up what we demand as the minimum, all while accepting that they themselves may never attain it. As I said before, I am not going to sit here and pretend that's the end of the discussion. Smarter men than me. Need to weigh in.
I think we may be in violent agreement. It was the Afghanistan element I was unsure about.
I agree someone called Shultz whose ancestor came in the late nineteenth century is as American as a Johnson who arrived in the seventeenth century.
I would argue the qualifier will be something like intermarrying. The USA is now mature enough to be able to insist you must be mixing within a few generations. More explicitly a healthy society would ban the emergence of ethnic mafias. After all most of the problems with immigration in Europe are not that people are migrating but that they shun European culture. This too is happening in the US. Unsuitable people are being added, like the Somalis who will never assimilate.
There are lots of ways to handle foreigners. I prefer classes of citizenship in addition to permanent status and requirements of marriage, payment, and loyalty affirmations. Ironically, most countries currently existing on the planet hove logical and attainable approaches to citizenship, and none of them have birthright citizenship of course, because it is utterly preposterous, damaging, and frankly retarded in every sense of that word.
I want to do everything I can to get this term + concept insinuated at both the social conscious & subconscious levels, but of course I didn't invent it, I don't own the term, and my only real connection to it is that I am an Amerikaner. We don't get to be "Ethnic Americans" so long as the Impostor Elites control the discourse and the academy because that would stymie their atomized, globalized, deracinated citizen concept, but nothing is stopping us from self-identifying as Amerikaners.
Agreed. I've considered myself an ethnic American for a while now. It just doesn't make sense to consider myself anything else, as my ancestors were both part of the founding stock and members of later immigrations waves.
Such is the case for so many of us. It's time we wake up to what our own lying eyes have been telling us for so long.
I would like to be very clear here: This collective realization is not some victory, it is not the finish line, it is actually the starting gun for a race that began many years ago, and we are perilously far behind. The Amerikaner Awakening will not usher in some utopia, it is just the too long delayed initiation of our explicit Ethnos. We have a lot of work to do, and we owe our descendents much.
That's a tricky distinction to make, and highly subjective depending on who is making the distinction, and why. I don't disagree, I am generally in support of both colonialism and empire, but there are many ways to pursue both, even more ways to fail at it, and only a few ways to do it successfully. One perspective is that all colonists are migrants, but not all migrants are colonists, and I think this distinction is useful and valid for us when looking backwards at history. Popular perception of the colonization of Amerika smuggles in a wholly inaccurate assumption that wealthy Europeans took a pleasure cruise across the Atlantic, rape-murdered a bunch of peace loving, vegetarian-buddhist Indians, then settled down to eat cheeseburgers and be racist. As silly as that may sound, a depressing majority of people I have tried to engage with on the subject hold ideas similar to this in seriousness and technical precision, if not specific form.
If you are interested in Empire, I have found D.K. Fieldhouse immensely valuable for contextualizing the major colonizing powers of Europe.
i'm not yet convinced that the word "American" has been too dirtied to mean something beautiful, to capture the ideals and hardiness and integration with people and land that you wrote about.
i'm not invested in deciding who's one of "us" and who's not. people will reveal themselves soon enough as outright enemies of the bill of rights, or as humans who live in support of what it enshrines. for me, that's the line. as much as the trials of earthy life that Americans have been through, it is our ideas that bind us. we have been, and still are, in pursuit of a more perfect union.
i love how easy the law makes it for a person to be "American". despite our checkered past, good people still seek out this country as a place where community and growth are available in return for plain old hard work. people bring gifts to share, they bring new perspectives, and over time, mutual respect and shared humanity blooms.
we are in danger of losing all that. i am moved by your article in unapologetic support of what is--and always has been--great about the people and the land of America.
i encourage you to also count the blessings that our culture entwined from the people who lived here before europeans, and think of them as Amerikaners, too.
we are lucky here, from sea to shining sea. we are not entitled to anything, as much as the bureaucrats love to tell tales of victimhood and entitlement. we are lucky and strong and it is ours to protect what we have and to share with all comers who would join us: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
I am with you, except for the last bit. Someone from Afghanistan becoming American. That doesn't mesh with being a heritage American. Unless I have misunderstood it sounds like civic nationalism, which is a nonstarter in my view. Weak beer compared to actual heritage.
As an aside, it is always interesting to ask outsiders what an American is. If you ask Arabs and Chinese they'll pick someone like John Wayne. Always white, or mostly white at least.
I don't disagree with you. I can't claim to be 100% certain, nor would I pretend that my position is where everyone else needs to move to. But there is some nebulous gray area of Land, Ancestry, and Will. If you roll back the clock 100 years (actually more lol, 90s kid mindset) then being a German migrant to the US and put you far outside the scope of Heritage American. But when you look around today, it would be a pretty tall order to try and explain why the descendants of ethnic English and Irish can make that claim but not Germans.
Though my own personal tastes run contrary to this position, I nonetheless assert that almost anyone can turn their descendants into Amerikaners, or at least give them a fighting chance to do so, so long as they abandon what they left behind and fully take up what we demand as the minimum, all while accepting that they themselves may never attain it. As I said before, I am not going to sit here and pretend that's the end of the discussion. Smarter men than me. Need to weigh in.
I think we may be in violent agreement. It was the Afghanistan element I was unsure about.
I agree someone called Shultz whose ancestor came in the late nineteenth century is as American as a Johnson who arrived in the seventeenth century.
I would argue the qualifier will be something like intermarrying. The USA is now mature enough to be able to insist you must be mixing within a few generations. More explicitly a healthy society would ban the emergence of ethnic mafias. After all most of the problems with immigration in Europe are not that people are migrating but that they shun European culture. This too is happening in the US. Unsuitable people are being added, like the Somalis who will never assimilate.
Violent agreement indeed.
There are lots of ways to handle foreigners. I prefer classes of citizenship in addition to permanent status and requirements of marriage, payment, and loyalty affirmations. Ironically, most countries currently existing on the planet hove logical and attainable approaches to citizenship, and none of them have birthright citizenship of course, because it is utterly preposterous, damaging, and frankly retarded in every sense of that word.
There is a sociological phenomen that tracts with what you have written here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_ancestry
I want to do everything I can to get this term + concept insinuated at both the social conscious & subconscious levels, but of course I didn't invent it, I don't own the term, and my only real connection to it is that I am an Amerikaner. We don't get to be "Ethnic Americans" so long as the Impostor Elites control the discourse and the academy because that would stymie their atomized, globalized, deracinated citizen concept, but nothing is stopping us from self-identifying as Amerikaners.
Agreed. I've considered myself an ethnic American for a while now. It just doesn't make sense to consider myself anything else, as my ancestors were both part of the founding stock and members of later immigrations waves.
Such is the case for so many of us. It's time we wake up to what our own lying eyes have been telling us for so long.
I would like to be very clear here: This collective realization is not some victory, it is not the finish line, it is actually the starting gun for a race that began many years ago, and we are perilously far behind. The Amerikaner Awakening will not usher in some utopia, it is just the too long delayed initiation of our explicit Ethnos. We have a lot of work to do, and we owe our descendents much.
Being a colonist is a good thing actually. Americans are descended from colonists, not immigrants.
That's a tricky distinction to make, and highly subjective depending on who is making the distinction, and why. I don't disagree, I am generally in support of both colonialism and empire, but there are many ways to pursue both, even more ways to fail at it, and only a few ways to do it successfully. One perspective is that all colonists are migrants, but not all migrants are colonists, and I think this distinction is useful and valid for us when looking backwards at history. Popular perception of the colonization of Amerika smuggles in a wholly inaccurate assumption that wealthy Europeans took a pleasure cruise across the Atlantic, rape-murdered a bunch of peace loving, vegetarian-buddhist Indians, then settled down to eat cheeseburgers and be racist. As silly as that may sound, a depressing majority of people I have tried to engage with on the subject hold ideas similar to this in seriousness and technical precision, if not specific form.
If you are interested in Empire, I have found D.K. Fieldhouse immensely valuable for contextualizing the major colonizing powers of Europe.
I’ve been asking people for a year what “Amerikaner” meant and just found this essay. This is the answer I was looking for. Nice work.
i'm not yet convinced that the word "American" has been too dirtied to mean something beautiful, to capture the ideals and hardiness and integration with people and land that you wrote about.
i'm not invested in deciding who's one of "us" and who's not. people will reveal themselves soon enough as outright enemies of the bill of rights, or as humans who live in support of what it enshrines. for me, that's the line. as much as the trials of earthy life that Americans have been through, it is our ideas that bind us. we have been, and still are, in pursuit of a more perfect union.
i love how easy the law makes it for a person to be "American". despite our checkered past, good people still seek out this country as a place where community and growth are available in return for plain old hard work. people bring gifts to share, they bring new perspectives, and over time, mutual respect and shared humanity blooms.
we are in danger of losing all that. i am moved by your article in unapologetic support of what is--and always has been--great about the people and the land of America.
i encourage you to also count the blessings that our culture entwined from the people who lived here before europeans, and think of them as Amerikaners, too.
we are lucky here, from sea to shining sea. we are not entitled to anything, as much as the bureaucrats love to tell tales of victimhood and entitlement. we are lucky and strong and it is ours to protect what we have and to share with all comers who would join us: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.